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NTLM or MD4?
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Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:50 amby zifr
I have the hash that I used SAMinside to pull out of a Windows SAM file. The hash is listed under NT Hash, should I be using the MD4 function or NTLM for my cracking? Thank you for the insight.
zifr
Re: NTLM or MD4?
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Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:41 pmby blazer
the NTLM hashing implements MD4 but the general output is different, so to attack NTLM just use the NTLM algorithm ? I'm assuming you're transferring the hash over to the multiforcer ?
Re: NTLM or MD4?
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Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:56 pmby 1epi
Re: NTLM or MD4?
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Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:48 amby Bitweasil
You will attack a Windows NTLM hash with NTLM.
It is performing a MD4 on the UTF-16LE representation of the password, if you were curious. Adding MD4 to the cracker, while fairly useless, was trivial to do.
Re: NTLM or MD4?
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Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:09 amby blendaperry
NTLM Provides confidentiality and Authentication to the users, As it is a set of Microsoft Security Protocols, it also provides backward compatability with LANMAN.
Re: NTLM or MD4?
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Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:08 pmby Bitweasil
blendaperry wrote:NTLM Provides confidentiality and Authentication to the users, As it is a set of Microsoft Security Protocols, it also provides backward compatability with LANMAN.
What?
No, it's not backwards compatible with LanMan hashes... they're DES based.
*confused as to why you posted this*
Re: NTLM or MD4?
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Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:43 pmby Sc00bz
None of his posts make any sense. I would say he's a bot but there are no ads on his posts. He should totally wear the "I failed the Turing test" t-shirt.
Re: NTLM or MD4?
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Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:13 pmby Bitweasil
Sc00bz wrote:None of his posts make any sense. I would say he's a bot but there are no ads on his posts. He should totally wear the "I failed the Turing test" t-shirt.
I'm confused too. Bots have trouble registering, and he's not spamming.
blendaperry, send me a PM to verify that you're a human and are of some value to the forum, or I'll just ban you. You're not contributing in a meaningful manner.